GFS Professional Pickups

[Crack]

so what's better, SD '59s with alnico 4 and four conductor wiring or tonerider classic IV's ?

 

[AngryHatter]

Don't let price be a factor in determining "upgrade" just because it's 40.00 doesn't mean it's not an improvement. Too many people think the more you pay for a pickup the better it is. Like I mention before a person winding a pickup in China or a person winding a pickup for Seymour Duncan it really doesn't matter if they do it correctly. People tend to call 'Chinese/Korean' etc made items crap and sub par (because of counterfeiter), but if the same person winding pickups in China/Korea is now working at Seymour Duncan then it's becomes a great p'up.

Except a lot of Squier pickups are wound in the USA and Then shipped to where ever.

What determines how good a product is ultimately is the experience of the person making that product. If they know how to wind well it won't matter what nationality they are.

Up to this point, offshore pickups are good when the OEM licenses the offshore firm - all specs are shared, the difference is then labor, only.

You do get what you pay for...as a generality.

 

[LtKojak]

Except a lot of Squier pickups are wound in the USA and Then shipped to where ever.

This is improbable, to say the least. Anyway, HOW do you KNOW this? It's not hearsay, this is something you KNOW, isn't it? I'd REALLY like to see hard evidence of this statement.

What determines how good a product is ultimately is the experience of the person making that product. If they know how to wind well it won't matter what nationality they are.

Pickups are wound in CNC machines with little to no human intervention.

Up to this point, offshore pickups are good when the OEM licenses the offshore firm - all specs are shared, the difference is then labor, only.

The biggest difference is MATERIALS. That's what makes or breaks a p'up.

You do get what you pay for...as a generality.

P'ups like those "made to spec" by different brands in asia that get sold for $35.00 a pop, usually cost to the reseller $ 8.00 for a finished humbucking, packed in its box with brand, literature, ready to be delivered to the customer, and the asian factories still make a profit.

 

[Crack]

still doesn't answer my last question

 

[SrDeMaFp]

so what's better, SD '59s with alnico 4 and four conductor wiring or tonerider classic IV's ?

That like asking "What's my favorite pair of shoes?" We don't know your tonal preferences, that's on you.

 

[AngryHatter]

This is improbable, to say the least. Anyway, HOW do you KNOW this? It's not hearsay, this is something you KNOW, isn't it? I'd REALLY like to see hard evidence of this statement.



Pickups are wound in CNC machines with little to no human intervention.



The biggest difference is MATERIALS. That's what makes or breaks a p'up.



P'ups like those "made to spec" by different brands in asia that get sold for $35.00 a pop, usually cost to the reseller $ 8.00 for a finished humbucking, packed in its box with brand, literature, ready to be delivered to the customer, and the asian factories still make a profit.

The CV Squire teles have tonerider IIIs in them. The information comes from a fender employee.

Where the guitars are cheap are the wood for the body and the cavity material...pots, switch etc.

 

[LtKojak]

The CV Squire teles have tonerider IIIs in them.

Classic Vibe Telecaster® Custom by Squier® Guitars

Here's the link to the whole CV series. No "Tonerider" p'up to be found

The information comes from a fender employee.

A nameless, faceless "Fender employee"? How "convenient" for you, isn't it...?

FYI, the "Tonerider" company is a UK-based brand:

Andrew Cunningham
Tonerider Ltd
Lower Flat West Wedge
The Esplanade Sandgate
Folkestone
Kent
CT20 3EA
United Kingdom

So, Squier, being the chinese-made Fender company, will never have Tonerider p'ups.

Last, but not least: there's NO Tonerider p'up that goes with the moniker "Tonerider III".

You don't have to take my word for it, you can look for yourself, here's the link:

http://www.tonerider.com/index.html

I think you like to talk a bit too much about things you don't have any real knowledge of...

 

[LtKojak]

so what's better, SD '59s with alnico 4 and four conductor wiring or tonerider classic IV's ?

What's better, blondes or redheads...?

 

[Crack]

i prefer redheads

 

[LtKojak]

i prefer redheads

You didn't answer my question...

 

[Crack]

readheads are better

 

[bsm9981]

Do yourself a favor and at least talk to some of the vendors on here. If anything, you'll gain some knowledge. Tell them about your guitar, what you play ect. They can make a recommendation on what they think is best, and at least you have an idea of what may be a good choice from someone who has experiance with pickups. I have a set of Manlius Hot Rod 59s in my Epi LP, kind of a PAF on steroids, and also a set of MHD custom wound asylums in my ESP. Both guys were great to deal with, and plus, they run sells ever so often, so I was able to pickup both sets of mine for at or less than what your budget. Just my opinions, but a lot of people have been in your shoes, hope you find what your looking for.

 

[hbucker]

Honestly, I don't have a beef with GFS. I've used one of their Fat PAF's for about 7-8 years now and it's been just fine. I recently replaced it with a Duncan JB, which is a better pickup over all, but similar in its characteristics. It was a step up, but not a major, night and day, GFS really sucks, step up.

I have no idea how good their Pro pickups are. I have no experience that tells me they would suck, but they won't be the best you can buy either.

IMO, an "upgrade" means an improvement: in the end, you're happier with your guitar than when you started. If that means a $25 pickup could be an "upgrade" for you, then so be it. You won't hear an argument from me. It's your guitar, make it what you want.

There are many great pickups out there. Frankly, many will be better than GFS, but that doesn't mean I think GFS suck. They don't. Find what you like (that fits your budget) and play the heck out of it.

 

[AngryHatter]

Classic Vibe Telecaster® Custom by Squier® Guitars

Here's the link to the whole CV series. No "Tonerider" p'up to be found



A nameless, faceless "Fender employee"? How "convenient" for you, isn't it...?

FYI, the "Tonerider" company is a UK-based brand:

Andrew Cunningham
Tonerider Ltd
Lower Flat West Wedge
The Esplanade Sandgate
Folkestone
Kent
CT20 3EA
United Kingdom

So, Squier, being the chinese-made Fender company, will never have Tonerider p'ups.

Last, but not least: there's NO Tonerider p'up that goes with the moniker "Tonerider III".

You don't have to take my word for it, you can look for yourself, here's the link:

Tonerider - Welcome

I think you like to talk a bit too much about things you don't have any real knowledge of...

One, talk to my contact ( and if you choose to believe that he does not exists, fine) and then two, try a fender forum. I don't mean the crowd, I mean Fender, ask them.
Does the word "License" mean anything in your vocabulary?
What do you think a Squire is but a distant made licensed product. And that Fender winds a licensed pickup surprises you?
The VM Strats have Duncans - wound by Duncan? No...wound in Corona.
Get a grip, sparky.

 

[LtKojak]

One, talk to my contact

If you tell me who he/she is, I'll do it. I'm trying really hard to give you the benefit of the doubt... but failing miserably.

I mean Fender, ask them.

I don't need to. In Italy, the importer, Casale Bauer http://casalebauer.com/ deals Fender, Squire AND Seymour Duncan. And after over thirteen years in the game, I'd think I KNOW a thing or two 'bout the business side of things.

Does the word "License" mean anything in your vocabulary?

Ok, this sounds promising...

Fender winds a licensed pickup surprises you?

It does, because they just don't.

The VM Strats have Duncans - wound by Duncan? No...wound in Corona.

Ok, this is REALLY funny. Fender, the oldest and biggest seller of single coil p'ups, having Abigail Ybarra, the Myth, the Legend, would LICENSE a Duncan p'up design to be wound in Corona?

This is so preposterous I just won't comment on it.

FYI, the Seymour Duncan Co. have two lines of p'ups: the made-to-spec in Korea Duncan Designed, and the Seymour Duncan line, wound in Santa Barbara, CA. They've made some small runs like the Black Back for Ed Roman in the past, they've made the Pearly Gates plus for Fender, but they just don't license their products to be made elsewhere. The Duncan Designed p'ups found in Squire instruments and the Seymour Duncan p'ups found in Fender instruments are OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer).

Get a grip, sparky.

Look from what pulpit comes the preaching...

 

[slapshot]

I have no idea how good their Pro pickups are.

they're the same as their other rebranded Artec pickups
nothing at all "pro" about them just more bullshit marketing spin

 

[Sinster]

What's better, blondes or redheads...?

Both.... at one time.