So now i finally bought an Edwards =) Awesome !!

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Welcome to the Club!!!!Love the Reflectors!!!Here's my 130/RE that I got for Christmas(Huge Surprise!!!)..Got it Christmas Eve.. Christmas day I had a set of Bare Knuckles Stormy Mondays in it...
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Wow, I usually don't like tobacco bursts, but this looks really great!
 
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dont know much about it ..i bought it off ebay for about $800.00 australian dollars plays really nice sounds good,I havent changed anything on it:D

those red ones were listed in the 2003 ESP catalog as the E-LP-90SD and came stock with open faced Alnico Pro II p`ups as opposed to the E-LP-85SD which came with zebra The `59 and JB Duncan p`ups. It was a production model. They were not listed in the 2002 catalog, the first year, according to the catalogs I have, that the Edwards/Duncan series came into being. I still have the single page flyer type that the company issued as the Edwards/Duncans lacquer taste models came out between catalogs...and I have it inserted in my 2003 catalog, in 2002 there were only 2 Edwards on offer with the Duncan p`ups...the E-LP-85SD in three colors and the E-LP-85CD, the custom version in black and white. Then in 2003, more models showed up in the lacquer taste series. I own two of the ones without serials, one I got used in 2002 and it has a 2 piece back.
 

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Here's my Gibson LP Studio (490R/498T for now) and Edwards E-LP-92CD (Giovanni GVH-1 bridge, GFS Classic II neck).

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With these pickup choices the Gibson can't touch the Edwards in terms of tone, balance, articulation, responsiveness, etc. From the unplugged sounds the Gibson should outperform the Edwards (fuller tone, slightly more projection and resonance) but not the way it stands as of this post. Perhaps a pickup swap for the Gibson could change that, but I've never heard a guitar that sounds any better than that Edwards, with those pickups, through that amp.

Congrats on the "new" guitar.
 

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Wow, I usually don't like tobacco bursts, but this looks really great!

Those tobaccobursts on the 130s are really nice ones ! would like to see it live : ) Maybe gibiphne can get us some new pics


very nice..couldnt understand why people raved about edwards guitars till i got one..:D:D

Same here : ) Absolutley. This guitar just feels so right and good, the neck in particular. Never touched a guitar with nitro before ! The craftsmanship is really oustanding in my opinion and it got a whole lotta resonace, especially/even unplugged, its unbelievable ! I really had a second thought on the "chambered issue" : D


I want to thank again all the people that recommended me Edwards ! After all this back and forth, tokai vs edwards etc. ....I am very happy and truly proud to got an Edwards =) I can only highly recommend it as well !
 

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Oh I forgot. Here are a few new pics...will post some more soon.
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ps: Is it okay if the bridge is that high?
 

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Nice top on that one, congrats! Also glad to see the binding isn't covered with paint and veneer on the top edge, like on the lower grade models, that's my biggest gripe with Edwards.

It's normal for the bridge to be that high in Edwards guitars, it's because of the neck angle.
 

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Nice, it arrived man! How does it play and are you happy with it?
 

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Kølabrennern;1485666 said:
It's normal for the bridge to be that high in Edwards guitars, it's because of the neck angle.
The bridge on the Edwards only looks higher because the bridge posts have no lip where they insert into the body and the thumbwheels are thinner. That makes more threads of the posts show, but the top of the bridge isn't actually any higher than a typical Gibson, given the same action. I measured the distance from the bottom of the strings to the top of the body on both my Edwards E-LP-92CD and Gibson LP Studio - both with identical action - and it was exactly the same at the bridge and towards the neck. I also measured various dimensions of the body - the neck angle is the same as a typical Gibson Les Paul. It's just an "illusion" that the bridge is higher, in reality it's not... http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/other-les-pauls/75467-edwards-lp-vs-gibson-studio-comparison.html
 

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Hmm. I just got it from this article: Gibson Les Paul VOS 1960 vs Edwards Les Paul LP130 | Music + Technology = Pete Lacis

At first glance, one concern about the Edwards was that the tune-o-matic bridge was set up rather high. However, after close inspection, it appears as if the neck angle on the Edwards is considerably more steep that that of the Gibson VOS. Not sure what that means….just found it interesting. You can see examples regarding this in the pictures which will follow below.

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That is interesting. With the action set identically on both guitars (measured with a steel machinist's ruler) I carefully measured string heights on both guitars from the bottom of the strings to the top of the body, at several places along the body. Each time they were identical to within a fraction of a millimeter. I even measured directly at the bridge because I've also heard that Edwards usually have higher bridge settings than Gibsons - everything was the same. I re-checked it again after I changed strings and re-set the action and intonation and again, the same.

But I did notice that the Edwards bridge "looked" higher because there's no lip where the bridge posts insert into the body and the thumbwheels on the Edwards are quite a bit thinner than the Gibson. That means you see more threads of the bridge posts showing on the Edwards and it makes it look like the bridge is raised higher up - but in my case the measurements clearly show that it is not. I assumed then that the idea that Edwards have higher bridge settings is just a myth based on that "illusion".

Perhaps we're seeing variations in manufacturing by either Gibson, Edwards or both. In any case, it certainly can't be concluded that Edwards necessarily have higher bridge heights than Gibson - mine doesn't. And the other Edwards I've seen appear to have about the same bridge height settings as mine with similar action, so I think my Edwards is fairly typical. Perhaps my Gibson has a steeper than typical neck angle for a Gibson? After all, outside of certain models, Gibson has been using the rocker style neck joint and that is designed to allow adjustments of neck angle during manufacturing. Personally, I think Gibson is the one with greater manufacturing variations and Edwards probably originally modeled their neck angle off a Gibson with that same angle.

Another thing that has to be considered is body thickness all around. My Edwards is 2.0" inches thick everywhere around the body, but my Gibson is slightly thinner towards the neck than the rear (by about 1 mm). That affects how the Gibson lays on its back as compared to the Edwards and could make the neck angle appear different if it isn't accounted for. It could be variations in body thickness, not necessarily neck angle, making them lay differently on that table.

I also noticed in his review that he said his Edwards was more resonant than his Gibson. I found the opposite - the Gibson slightly more resonant than my Edwards. It's not by a lot, but definitely in the Gibsons favour. His Edwards might have been more resonant because his Gibson is lighter than his Edwards, mine are both the same weight to within a few ounces.

Interesting stuff.
 

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Interesting indeed, and you make good points - great post!

My Gibson is a 1990 Classic which has the ABR bridge with posts that screw directly into the wood. I've done the same neck angle comparison as in the pictures above and came to the same conclusion as the guy in the article, that my Edwards has a steeper angle and the bridge sits higher. However it's not by much and as mentioned the thumbwheels on Gibsons are thicker, so it creates the illusion of more air between the body and bridge.

I also know Gibson changed the neck angle again for the '09 reissues, making it possible to lower the bridge even more than on the models of previous years. Would be interesting to see that difference visualized.
 

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Nice, it arrived man! How does it play and are you happy with it?


Yes, as I already said, I am totally happy with it its awesome : )


And thanks for all this info Brynner and Kolabrennern !

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I took some new shots today with the pickguard screwed on. What do you prefer ? (I love it how the burst is different on almost every pic, depending on the light and angle)




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Almost pulled the trigger on a 130 last night...sold for $750!! I was good and resisted :p but oh those Antiquity pups...

Oh nice IKEA lamp and couch by the way :D
 

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Almost pulled the trigger on a 130 last night...sold for $750!! I was good and resisted :p but oh those Antiquity pups...

Oh nice IKEA lamp and couch by the way :D


Whaaat ?! Why didnt you get it ? Thats an awesome deal !!!! Come on... = )
and thanks by the way haha :D




Kølabrennern;1504594 said:
I'd prefer that you send me that guitar right away and I'd send you my 98LTS to compensate. :D

Seriously, I think it looks great! Keep the PG.

Hehe...no way : ) But I saw your 98lts. Looks great, too !!
 

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So now that I got an awesome guitar, I want to care for it : D

How should I maintain it? Is there anything I should mind?


Hey you proud Edwards owners :
I am just wondering if your rosewood fretboard has lots of tiny marks, stripes, some longer some shorter, whatsoever, too? Like a heavy texture of the wood.Is that normal? How do I condition it?
 

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Nice one.

Thanks Joe, I will buy that sometime somewhere = )
 

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