Truss rod nut problem!!

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Hi everyone!

I have trying to adjust the truss rod on a les paul traditional and the truss rod nut came out when i was turning it counter clockwise. Is it normal ? Although i can't reduce the tension now.
 

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Is the neck still back-bowed with the nut out and strings in tune?
 

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Take it to a tech. Best case scenario the threads on the nut are stripped and you can pick up a new one from stew mac fairly cheap. Worst case scenario the threads on the rod are chewed up and need to be redone.

Hope this is the best case scenario.

Cheers
 

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Righty tighty .... lefty loosey.

Clockwise tightens.

Make sure you put the washer back on.

Don't over tighten.

You should never turn a truss rod nut more than a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn at a time.

Wait til overnight for it to take new shape after adjusting.
 

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Its a 1 way rod. It has an adjusting nut, and yes if you unscrew a nut it will come off the thread.
It has the ability to produce more backbow to counteract the effects of strings wanting to pull the neck up. This is a clockwise turn to increase tension on the rod. But there is no force you can exert to make the neck more bowed if there is a upbow in the neck. Once the nut is loose the neck is at rest.
 

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If The truss Rod is loose, wouldn't You need to remove the fretboard in order to reconnect them?
 

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Righty tighty .... lefty loosey.

Clockwise tightens.

Make sure you put the washer back on.

Don't over tighten.

You should never turn a truss rod nut more than a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn at a time.

Wait til overnight for it to take new shape after adjusting.

you turn your truss rod like that. Not me. I check the neck first to see where i am at.
I loosen the nut all the way until it has no more effect on the neck, then bring it back until it just makes contact with the washer but has no effect on the neck.
Then turn the nut slowly about 1/8" or so and check the relief. Then repeat until i get the relief i am looking for. Once i get there, i let it sit for a few hours and check it after that.

just me.

as to the OP's problem, this can be fixed with tools from Stew Mac if the threads are stripped.
 

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If The truss Rod is loose, wouldn't You need to remove the fretboard in order to reconnect them?
No, the truss rod is held in place by design. All you should need to do is put the nut back on. Careful not to cross thread it.
 

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If The truss Rod is loose, wouldn't You need to remove the fretboard in order to reconnect them?
The nut and the thread are both sitting there in the trussrod cavity. The TR isn't a bungee cable either. It doesn't spring back into the neck out of reach once there is no pressure on it.
 

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If The truss Rod is loose, wouldn't You need to remove the fretboard in order to reconnect them?


These image's show the other end of a Gibson Les Paul truss rod.

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That's great to know. I don't touch my truss Rod adjustment even though I assume that it's considered user-serviceable since they supply You with a wrench. My guitar guy set my neck in about five minutes, and He's only a half of an hour away. I understand which way the neck moves in relation to turns on the nut.
When I took it in, the neck was flat with an action far lower than I like it. He adjusted it, and it was much better, but I would have kept going. He knew that He could go no further, so right there it payed to have him do the work. He said that any further adjustment needed to be made on the Bridge. I was REALLY glad that I took it to him. If the rod would have come loose while I was adjusting it, I would have lost it. I think it pays to have a guy who knows what He's doing perform neck adjustment I probably would have snapped off the headstock if I had adjusted it!
 

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