Stairway to Heaven 4 different sounds on an aged Jimmy Page Les Paul

[JimmyAce2006]

Damn Jimmy!!!!

That's some pretty damn good pickin right there

thanks!

 

[JimmyAce2006]

Here is my other aged Page. And yes, I posted this in a couple of other threads.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO63Vu1N3hw]YouTube - Moby Dick on an aged Jimmy Page Les Paul[/ame]

 

[Duke_18_watt]

Woooow the outta phase part is just strange sounding. Looks like these guitars are a lot of fun. I would love to hqve one too

I love that outta phase Peter Green honking sound. It's my favourite, but #4 seems to hit the correct tone for the song.

This is a wonderful thread...excellent work man.

 

[generalwar]

I love that outta phase Peter Green honking sound. It's my favourite, but #4 seems to hit the correct tone for the song.

This is a wonderful thread...excellent work man.

They were wired wrong from Gibson.

Hey Jimmy did you re-wire these to proper Page specs? Nice playing on Moby btw!!

 

[JimmyAce2006]

They were wired wrong from Gibson.

Hey Jimmy did you re-wire these to proper Page specs? Nice playing on Moby btw!!

No, I have not changed the wiring

 

[JimmyAce2006]

 

[Gaetano]

Nice vids Jimmy, and nice guitars, of course.

They nailed #1 pretty good, shame that they put that smokin flaming tops on a guitar that looks almost plain in some photo-angles.(talkin' about the real one of course)

Anyway, #4 seems the correct sound of the studio version, whereas #2 seems more like live one.

Pretty ovious if you think that, as many others said, solo was recorded with single coils but played ive with 'buckers.

Nice wall and, of course a doubleneck could be grabbed pretty easly by 2 hooks, so its not an excuse

 

[tnvnl]

I agree it was a toss up between 2 and 4, but I guess I prefer 2.

 

[JimmyAce2006]

They nailed #1 pretty good, shame that they put that smokin flaming tops on a guitar that looks almost plain in some photo-angles.(talkin' about the real one of course)

Nice wall and, of course a doubleneck could be grabbed pretty easly by 2 hooks, so its not an excuse

i prefer the flame top. that is why i bought this one; i could have easily found one with a lot less flame.

there is not going to be a double neck in my future. too heavy, unwieldy, too many strings to change / tune, only 20 frets, and it would only be used for a couple of LZ songs that I play.

 

[Kanga Blue]

After so much stairway, i think it will be a while before i play it again!

Lol Jimmy didn't you see the sign?
No Stairway allowed!
Maybe play Highway to Hell instead

In regards to the tone I have to disagree with all of you ... Page's Supro was so fat and saturated plus his miking technique made his tele very warm and fat and the closest approximation was in fact #1 give that Mr Ace's ( btw are you half Freeley half Page?) amp was fairly thin, brittle and harsh.

Sure the single coil through a Supro in the right room with close and far mic technique would be the closest approximation.

Jimmy if you don't mind some constructive criticism you should lay of the red bull, lean an kickback on the beat, it would almost be better if you a fraction late rather than early on the notes ( you rush a bit) and bend and vibrato too enthusiastically. You have chops though you just need to relax and own it. You can do it man!

Great effort on the production thanks.
Oh and I am jealous of your Pages

 

[JimmyAce2006]

Jimmy if you don't mind some constructive criticism you should lay of the red bull, lean an kickback on the beat, it would almost be better if you a fraction late rather than early on the notes ( you rush a bit) and bend and vibrato too enthusiastically. You have chops though you just need to relax and own it. You can do it man!

I never claimed it was supposed to be perfect or an exact rendition. It is my version of it, which is a close enough approximation for me. If I wanted it to be perfect, I would listen to the original recording. This was just a demo of the guitar itself and the different sounds you can get out of it using the toggle & coil tapping.

Have you got any videos of you playing it? If so, let's see it!

 

[Exluthier]

Wait, so the middle position is always out of phase? I would hate that! The middle postion is one of the best tones you can get on a LP....

 

[JimmyAce2006]

Wait, so the middle position is always out of phase?

On the Jimmy Page #1, yes.

 

[Kanga Blue]

I never claimed it was supposed to be perfect or an exact rendition. It is my version of it, which is a close enough approximation for me. If I wanted it to be perfect, I would listen to the original recording. This was just a demo of the guitar itself and the different sounds you can get out of it using the toggle & coil tapping.

Have you got any videos of you playing it? If so, let's see it!

WoW obviously you do mind constructive criticism!
Sorry I offended you my man.
I never bothered learning the solo note for note like you. I impro my own. It's actually harder to own someone else's solo than your own. Even Jimmy Page's live replication of the intro to the solo on "The Song Remains the Same" is off tempo and feel slightly because it is a replication, not him being inspired, owning it and playing it off the cuff like the original studio one off. Later in the solo he impros and owns it more.


Clearly you listened to the recording a lot to get it note for note, I am sure this is not the issue, but you seem unwilling to accept the feedback. I was trying to be constructive... apologies if you were offended by the Red Bull quip, I was suggesting you relax back on the beat in a what I though was a funny way. I know you probably weren't high on RB. Cest La Vie

 

[Nick59]

Yes, this "unmistakable Les Paul tone" that we all talk about and spend thousands trying to chase.........Which particular tone is it? A Telecaster on a Led Zep album?

Or ZZ Top, Eagles, Rolling Stones, Fleetwood Mac, or maybe Aerosmith? And which specific recording? Live or studio? It seems to me that there is no more a single tone than you would get from a shed full of Reissues. They're all different.

 

[andrewflour]

Wait, so the middle position is always out of phase? I would hate that! The middle postion is one of the best tones you can get on a LP....

No! Please, this misinformation about Jimmy Page real number one is driving me crazy. His middle position is NOT out of phase, but wired normally. YES, he has a push pull on the bridge tone pot, but it's for phase reversing, not coil splitting.
And I know, Gibson found his guitars in that condition when the employes went examinating it. I don't know the cause of this but I know that there have been a lot of talk about this, especially on this forum. A good thing will be to wire the CS gibson signature normally and use the existing push pull to phase reverse. So much like Page real 1#

ps: JimmyAce maybe have interpreted wrong some infos about his real guitar conditions. What Gibson says is not surrounded by holy

 

[aidb]

ps: JimmyAce maybe have interpreted wrong some infos about his real guitar conditions. What Gibson says is not surrounded by holy

Houses of the Holy?

 

[JimmyAce2006]

ps: JimmyAce maybe have interpreted wrong some infos about his real guitar conditions. What Gibson says is not surrounded by holy

We were NEVER talking about the real #1. This thread is about the signature guitar in the first post, not the real #1. No misinterpretation on my part. I know how the real #1 is wired - as you described. We were talking about the #1 signature guitar made between 2004-2006. Gibson wired it that way on purpose as an alternate wiring. They expected PAge to discover it on his own when he approved the guitar. He discovered it 6 months after the guitar was released & asked them why they wired it that way; the response he got was that it was an alternate wiring that Page approved! Similar to "buyer beware" it was "Jimmy beware". So he was much more thorough i checking the #2's wiring when he approved that guitar.

 

[Penny Dreadful]

Nice playing, but you cant make a Lester sound like a Telly...'twould be sissy.

 

[FUS44]

All of those tones are pretty awesome. For the solo, I like #2. but all of those tones are winners. They really nail that snarling, PAF Page sound. Not to mention the playing, which is pretty dang good.